Yar my name is Ibraz Butt. My grandfather's name was M.Afzal Butt and my Great Grand Father's name was Malik Abdullah.
Ones i asked my grandfather that why do we put 'Butt' with our name where your father used to put Malik along with his name.
Grandpa answerer ' that is a tittle given to our family in kashmir. My father put the the clan name instead of the tittle and so did i and ur father'
I dont know exactly from which are of jammu we migrated from. can anybody help?
ABAnayat Bhat
February 18, 2012 at 9:33 AM
I agree with m u but when he says that mr muzhar but has little knowledge of kashmir history.bhat's are using their sir name from centries.no one from low cost community has used sir name :bhat:
MBMazhar Butt (butto Na Butto!!)
October 26, 2011 at 4:04 PM
@ M. U. Butt
If you had read history you would know what a wild and a secluded tribe of Butt was. They were beaten up by the Lone's, who were among the ruling class of Kashmir, Gradually the Butts got civilized and are now what they are. Like all Kashmiris they are good at eating and fighting...with each others. However, they prove to be excellent friends of other ehtnicities. Like other Kashmiris, the Butts were also excluded from military service -disqualified for being inherently disobedient. Kashmiris unfortunately suffer to a great extent from self-conceit and jealousy among themselves....and MU Butt is one of such glaring examples.
He ought to read History of Kashmir by Munshi Mohd Din Fauq for enlightenment.
KKashmiri
October 8, 2011 at 5:37 PM
Bhat is a Brahmin name. It is found all over India, but is mostly a Saraswat brahmin name, which means that at some point, the male with this surname was originally from Kashmir and then this surname came to be used by his progeny, even though he may have married with other indians. Therefore also found in U.P, Rajasthan, Gujrat, Bengal and Karnataka.
AAmritendra
September 13, 2011 at 4:25 AM
Bhatt or bhat is common sir name in in north india too. mostly u will find it in gujrat and rajasthan. they have also strong appearance in Bihar,jharkhand,up, mp . they belong to brahmin community but there population is less compare to other brahmin
KBKh.irfan Butt
September 9, 2011 at 2:51 AM
butt,mir,dar,wyn,are kashmiri's.& kashmiri,pathan& afghan people having same ancestores.all are goog looking,fair skin, eat very well,brave,hardworker.in seria sham &izraeel , hazrat ibrahim a.s. have two sons named hazrat ismaeel a.s.(all arabic people are race of hazrat ismaeel a.s.)second is hazrat isehaq a.s.&hazrat isehaq a.s. have a sone named yakoob(also called in Quran e sharif & bible Israeel).hazrat yakoob a.s.having 12 childern(according to Quran & bible).after that these 12 childern were become 12 tribes of israeel called bani israeel.some 100 years b.c. king bakht nasar of babul empire attacked on these 12 tribes.out of 12 tribes,10 tribes migrated toward east such as afghanistan,sarhad or kpk & kashmir. DNA of kashmiri, pathans& afghns are very similar with eachother. apparently & genetically kashmiri,pathan, afghans are israeelies. these are not brahmens or bhat.it is wrong. are u agree . . .???if
IBIrfan Butt
September 2, 2011 at 5:15 AM
infact butt,pathan,afghan are similar in origin & genetics. these are 10 tribes out of 12 tribes(bani israeel) that lived in seria sham. these 12 tribes were 12 childern of hazrat yakoob(isreeel)a.s. which is the son of hazrat eshaaq a.s.& which is the son of hazrat ibrahib a.s.& migrated toward kashmir,sarhad&afghanistan at the time of babul empire bakht nasar attacked on seria sham about some hundred years bc.
MJMirahmad Jalal
August 13, 2011 at 3:12 PM
My ancestore came from Qasba nowgam or naugam near sirinagar we are mirIs there any one from the same area????????????? jalal
KFKhawaja F. A Butt
February 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM
My ancestore came from Qasba "Chandeen" Thesil Kulgam, which is now a district. My ancestor converted to Muslim some where around late 18th century. Then in 1823 his son moved to the area near Sialkot, Pakistan.
Is there any one from the same area?????????????
KFKhawaja F. A Butt
February 9, 2011 at 10:58 AM
While doing some research for my own family I have come across this info. on the net.
For the general caste, see Bhatt. Bhatt (Kashmiri: भट (Devanagari), بھٹ (Nastaleeq)), sometimes spelled as Butt (Pahari: بٹ), both of which are a shortened rendition of Bhatta (Kashmiri: भट्ट (Devanagari), بھٹٹ (Nastaleeq)), is a Kashmiri surname, found among individuals native to the Kashmir Valley, as well as Kashmiri émigrés who have migrated to the Punjab, a region divided between India and neighbouring Pakistan. Kashmiris bearing the surname Bhat belong to the larger Bhat caste of Brahmins found in the rest of the India; the surname is shared by both Hindus and Muslims. Historians state the surname is a distorted form of Bhatta, which originates from Sanskrit (भटट), meaning "scholar" according to Brāhmaṇa. While the original shortened rendition of the "Bhatta" caste was "Bhat" or "Bhatt," many of the migrants to the Punjab, started spelling their surname as "But" or "Butt" which is the spelling of the clan used in the Pahari language. People named Bhat were said to be a clan of Brahmin descents of intellectual Vedic and Dardic saints that inhabited the banks of the Saraswati River, which ran dry around 2000 BC. This forced the community to migrate to Kashmir in search of "ultimate truth"
P.S....I will also appreciate any info. about the " Bhar Dooge" branch of cast Butt.
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Add CommentOnes i asked my grandfather that why do we put 'Butt' with our name where your father used to put Malik along with his name.
Grandpa answerer ' that is a tittle given to our family in kashmir. My father put the the clan name instead of the tittle and so did i and ur father'
I dont know exactly from which are of jammu we migrated from. can anybody help?
If you had read history you would know what a wild and a secluded tribe of Butt was. They were beaten up by the Lone's, who were among the ruling class of Kashmir, Gradually the Butts got civilized and are now what they are. Like all Kashmiris they are good at eating and fighting...with each others. However, they prove to be excellent friends of other ehtnicities. Like other Kashmiris, the Butts were also excluded from military service -disqualified for being inherently disobedient. Kashmiris unfortunately suffer to a great extent from self-conceit and jealousy among themselves....and MU Butt is one of such glaring examples.
He ought to read History of Kashmir by Munshi Mohd Din Fauq for enlightenment.
Is there any one from the same area?????????????
For the general caste, see Bhatt. Bhatt (Kashmiri: भट (Devanagari), بھٹ (Nastaleeq)), sometimes spelled as Butt (Pahari: بٹ), both of which are a shortened rendition of Bhatta (Kashmiri: भट्ट (Devanagari), بھٹٹ (Nastaleeq)), is a Kashmiri surname, found among individuals native to the Kashmir Valley, as well as Kashmiri émigrés who have migrated to the Punjab, a region divided between India and neighbouring Pakistan. Kashmiris bearing the surname Bhat belong to the larger Bhat caste of Brahmins found in the rest of the India; the surname is shared by both Hindus and Muslims. Historians state the surname is a distorted form of Bhatta, which originates from Sanskrit (भटट), meaning "scholar" according to Brāhmaṇa. While the original shortened rendition of the "Bhatta" caste was "Bhat" or "Bhatt," many of the migrants to the Punjab, started spelling their surname as "But" or "Butt" which is the spelling of the clan used in the Pahari language. People named Bhat were said to be a clan of Brahmin descents of intellectual Vedic and Dardic saints that inhabited the banks of the Saraswati River, which ran dry around 2000 BC. This forced the community to migrate to Kashmir in search of "ultimate truth"
P.S....I will also appreciate any info. about the " Bhar Dooge" branch of cast Butt.